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Joe Essid's avatar

We are in a fight in our county against big data centers. One is projected to be two million square feet (3000' x 200' footprint for the buildings, 3x the size of USS Nimitz).

It's an uphill battle, but in my work against this I cited economic realities: 92% of US GDP came from AI in the first half of the year, the thus-far failure of ROI by the companies, the likelihood that no semiconductors in existence can build AGI.

Yet AGI is the goal of several firms, instead of building smaller AI apps that might pay off with subscriptions (think ElevenLabs). Sam Altman in fact seems insane, with his fixation on The Merge, his vision of The Singularity. I'll quote him, "unless we destroy ourselves first, superhuman AI is going to happen, genetic enhancement is going to happen, and brain-machine interfaces are going to happen."

Nope, not with silicon-based chips. Maybe with quantum computing. And no interest in building lots of small-scale product that might provide ROI. Instead, this madness for an industry running on VC, circular investment, and now loans, those loans financed with techniques right out of the 2008 housing crisis. What could possibly go wrong?

It's a Bubble. I don't invest in Crypto either, and I sold my Blackrock stock (they build the damned hypercenters).

FWIW, I called the 2008 crisis a few months before, in a column I wrote for a weekly here (nearly folded, now online). I realized it was all a house of cards, when a new neighbor moved in. Unemployed. No assets but a used car and some fur coats. Alimony payments came in until they stopped, and she got evicted. Yet the bank gave her a mortgage when unemployed.

I changed my investments right away after I did some reading, and was not scathed much. But this time? Well, we all will suffer because most of us have money in Amazon, Google, Microsoft, and Apple (I do and use all their products). But AI-only OpenAI and Anthropic? One-trick ponies.

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Tim Morgan's avatar

Your Dave Wilburn quote hints at one likely implication of all the bubble burst scenarios: advanced computing hardware and cloud services costs will collapse from oversupply. Cloud-based gaming has been waiting for the combination of low latency (lots of regional data centers) and low cost graphics-ready server farms for at least 5 years. Similar compute-heavy applications would also benefit: video generation & editing, computational modeling, and expansion of use of scientific neurocomputing for materials science, biotech, engineering, etc. The AI bust could fuel a general boom due to cheap compute resources.

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